it's good to have friends and besides my regular life I found some friends in the www, some of them supporting me with my blog. Here we have two contributions concerning the Ilford Polypan F film. It's a cine film with almost the same emulsion as the regular Pan F, so boxspeed is 50 ASA, but missing a good halo protection and its available awesome cheap as 35 mm bulkware. Both, Wolf and Mike, exposed the Polypan F with EI 100, Wolf (Lupo914 @ flickr) developed the film in Caffenol-C-L, Mike (Mikeinlagardette @ flickr) in his own Caffenol-C variant that is quite similar to Caffenol-C-M. So let's see their results:
time for a new Caffenol experiment. For those „nickel nursers“ out there, it must be an incredible bargain, 90m 35mm film for 22 Euro resulting in 44cent per 36er roll of film. I´m speaking of the Polypan F, rated 50ASA, rumored to be a kinefilm made by Ilford. In fact its a very thin, polyester based film with less than optimal anti halo protection. But it has its own kind of old fashioned look.
For me, I´m using it for quite a while, exposing my second 90m roll of the film. In the past, development was done with Rollei RLS or Rodinal with decent results but only at 25 – 50 ASA, making it a film for sunny days only. Using Caffenol-C-L with Shanghai GP3 100, resulting in very good images rated at 400 ASA, I was curious trying Polypan F in the same soup. For the first attempt I´ve loaded a roll of Polypan F in my Pentax MZ-5n and exposed it like 100 ASA. Development 5 mins presoak, 60 minutes at 20°C in Caffenol-C-L, continuos agitation for the first minute, two gentle agitations at 15, 30 and 45 minutes. The results are very promising.
Below are Mikes results, portraying a Komaflex S for 127 film (4x4 cm) with a Minolta Dynax 600si and a 35-70mm Minolta zoom lens, cropped to square size:
Polypan F 50 @ 100asa in Caffenol C: Instant Coffee granules 12g, crystalline Washing Soda 10g, Ascorbic Acid powder 4g, water to 300ml. 5 minutes pre-wash, 10.5 minutes @21C, 30 secs continuous agitation, 2 inversions every 15 sec thereafter. Regard the unusual and fast agitiation rhythm.
Again, the Caffenol-C-L images seem to be a bit more on the finer grained side, the Caffenol-C produces some more "grainy character" and the slightly glowing highlights are fitting beautifully to the subject imho. Not to bad for a less than 50 euro-cents/roll film. Well done guys. Thank you very much.
Best regards - Reinhold
Very nice, guys, but where are you getting the Polypan so cheaply? Sounds like my kind of film.
F.e. ebay.de, no clue about availability in other countries. Best - Reinhold
You can buy Polypan from here: http://www.lumiere-shop.de/index.php?page=categorie&cat=79
I have never seen any proof or logical arguments that Polypan F is made by Ilford. I highly doubt it would even work well as cine film, considering it's very grainy. It's certainly NOTHING like Pan-F, not in any way! It scratches very easily, and is generally just a sub-par product. It's cheap, it works, but besides the dubious naming has nothing to do with Ilford.
I never used Polypan F myself but the pictures look very fine as long as you can deal with a low halation protection or maybe even like that. And I rather trust statements and examples of reliable people that I know than someone who even doesn't say his first name.
Cheers - Reinhold
First, thanks for the caffenol-examples with the Polypan F!
Second, about the "Is Polypan F the same as Pan F?":
One year ago I sent an email to lumiere shop and asked about the
origin of the Polypan. I received this message:
„Der Hersteller ist Ilford Emulsion Pan F.
Polypan ist ein Kopierfilm für Kinofilme.
Deshalb ein klarer reißfester Träger und in 3 Minuten fixiert.“
The manufacturer is Ilford emulsion Pan F.
Polypan is a copying film for motion picture films.
Therefore a clear tearproof base and a 3 minute fixer-time.
Maybe this is a proof for Anonymous
I too have developed a couple of rolls of PolyPan F. EI 100 and Caffenol-C-M for 16 minutes @ 20C. The lack of an anti-halation layer is in fact quite fun. A few examples:
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